In the old days...politicians, preachers, men of the community would get up on a soap box on a Sunday afternoon and say what was on their mind. Their covered everything from religion, politics, and other civic subjects. A time the community hashed over things in detail.

It is hard to get politicians or people to tolerate other points of view. That is listen and try to see what they are saying and what is relevant and what is not. I do not believe anyone person has all the answers, but some have really studied diligently in many subjects to be astue.

In Elliott Wave Principles you will find that many of the forefathers were also very interested in pyschology, and politics/government.

A subject or a statement that is brought up by one of them and repeated in Pretcher's book. He asks, "Where do all these rights come from." He wondered where people got the right to go to college, right to success, right to health care, and etc. In fact he goes on to state that these rights will ruin America's freedom.

Let me give an example by using National Health Care:

We have not had free enterprise health care in the USA for almost eighty years now. Since Hillary Care as some doctors referr to it. It really has been going to a Nationalization program. Yes, when they tried to get National health care then, they settled on a program that continually goes in that direction.

Just one question here:

When the American people chose to have the government supply their health care with taxation of the people and some say or think big business. When actually big business just adds it into their cost, plus ten percent for profit, to their product which you buy. So it is taxation by the people and for the people and the people pay it, even if it is hidden where only politicians and business owners know the real cost.

Now that the taxes have been collected they allocate it for the program. When the cost of the program as in Mass. and Oregon come to the limit. They have rules of what care will be supplied and denied. You the tax payer have given up your freedom to the government to chose what you will get or not get done for health issues.

For those that are irresponsible and chose to spend their money else where, instead of on health. Will win here. But responsible people as a whole will loose.

But freedom requires the citizentry to be responsible and if not. The government will be responsible for them. Just like a family structure. When a child uses his freedom not to do what he wants, but does what he ought. Mommy and Daddy leave that child alone. If the child abuses it, the child loses his freedom.

I am thinking more and more that America is not responsible enough to have Freedoms or a Free country. So#####m/Marxism is what they need for their daycare.

A forefather said: It is an republic of freedoms, if you can keep it.

charleydan